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Post by Guest on Jul 5, 2013 23:35:09 GMT -5
OMG that is funny... Welcome to a kevin mckamey response. Notice the clumsy 6th grade like syntax. The misspelling. The "my company right or wrong" approach. (anybody from the vietnam years?) (nixon: i am not a crook).
Kevin. Go back to bar hopping with your co conspirator, the other Kevin. They're comin to getcha. Hardeeharharhar.
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Post by Gus the guest on Jul 5, 2013 23:55:56 GMT -5
Kevin, ever been the subject of a federal investigation before? Here's some pointers: 1) have complete trust in ALL your co conspirators 2) have a sound knowledge of the law, both what you have violated, and your rights 3) know exactly what your co conspirators are going to say. Review #1 4) understand that if ANY, just ONE of the other complicit parties crack, you are had 5) review #1 6) consider selfishly dumping your pathetic guts to save your own ass 7) review #1
There are some weak, gutless pukes in that organization. Golly, monday morning is gonna be worth the wait.
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Post by gus on Jul 6, 2013 1:06:40 GMT -5
Kevin. One other thing then i gotta hit the sack. When they check you into Butner FCI to start your 5yrs, you should lose the attitude, and drop phrases like "prima donna". Its gonna be a lot like when you considered any female on the staff to be fair game. "yours" The difference here is that you are the game. I got friends that did time there. I can put you in touch if you like. Maddog Bernie Maddoff is there. I bet he cries himself to sleep every night. If he sleeps. Sweet dreams.
Gus
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Post by Avantair employee on Jul 6, 2013 6:25:01 GMT -5
I am not Kevin. Keep making up new user names and spreading lies. Hopefully someone can figure out who you are and sue you. Being angry about not getting paid doesn't give you the right. Worse making stuff up in an attempt to get a flying job will only get you so far. Keep promoting yourself and your website for your own gain. If the owners want to know who the good pilots are ask one of us from operations.
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Post by Avantair employee on Jul 6, 2013 6:52:13 GMT -5
Fractional owners. You should now this is the work of a handful of pilots. They are the same ones who made up a bunch of lies to get their Union in. They went on a full on smut and lies campaign. They create websites so that the people they smear can't defend themselves with the truth. this is how they did it before and this is just more of the same. The old union card
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Post by onegoodyear on Jul 6, 2013 7:08:22 GMT -5
Stop the lies. It may make you feel better but in the long run it hurts us all. I want my job back. You pilots looking to get paid on the side or pick up a flying job with the owners are a disgrace. You make thus stuff up and try and kill the company to help yourselves. As if working in operations and dealing with you prima donnas wasn't enough now this. Let's see who I believe: Pilots that were always professional, treated me, my employees, and my family with respect. These "prima donnas" load our bags, offer to serve us drinks before take off, check to make sure everything is ok during the flight, and offer any help they can when we land. Never had an Avantair pilot that seemed tired, or in a bad mood. Operations screwed me over and over. Several times I asked specifically for help with times to ensure my young children would get to sleep at their regular bedtimes (one of the reasons we use private aviation). It seemed you made it your mission to ensure you pushed our takeoff time into the evening. Was it to get us to stop flying? We would always cancel and scramble for another option. You always seemed pleased. My sister and her two boys were flying home from Florida and they had a mechanical issue that diverted them to West Palm. A repair was made and they took back off. The issue had not been resolved so they returned to West Palm. They were told they couldn't get a plane that night, but would have one first thing in the morning. I got a call the next morning to say they wouldn't get a plane until 4:30pm. That is how you treat people? I was able to get JetSuite to get me a CJ3 faster. Once again we canceled the trip and you were pleased. The people at the FBO gave my sister a car to use at no cost, as they felt bad. Somebody got the priority on planes, and you know who they were. When you take part in a scheme/fraud and lose your job don't expect sympathy.
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Post by Kevin McTroglodyte on Jul 6, 2013 7:15:14 GMT -5
Stop the lies. It may make you feel better but in the long run it hurts us all. I want my job back. You pilots looking to get paid on the side or pick up a flying job with the owners are a disgrace. You make thus stuff up and try and kill the company to help yourselves. As if working in operations and dealing with you prima donnas wasn't enough now this. Avantair employee, If you aren't Kevin, I have to ask: how can you possibly defend the company? If you didn't know all these shenanigans were going on behind the scenes, you are either completely delusional or completely ignorant (a perfect modern employee!) If you really want your crappy old job back, you must have been one of the dead weights that showed up every day to surf the web while the rest of us busted our asses to keep the sinking ship afloat. Ignoring all the things that have been said that might or might not be true, there are several things that ARE true, and are even listed in SEC filings, that should make you question your allegiance to the company. You might want your job back, but your job obviously doesn't want YOU back. Should a miracle occur and you come back to work at Newco, LLC, you will be in the same boat, captained by the same nitwits that led you down this path of destruction. Good luck with that. If you are Kevin, you are one of the most incompetent, arrogant sub-humans I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with. Someone who has to be explained what Astro is after we had been using it to schedule flights for a couple of years should probably not be the EVP of anything.
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Post by vnrpilots on Jul 6, 2013 7:20:32 GMT -5
I am the owner of vnrpilots.com and have ZERO affiliation with any union. I was / am a member of the Avantair union as all pilots were, but I'm not an organizer or officer or anything. 'Avantair Employee' is lying or doesn't know.
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Post by Stefano Sanchez on Jul 6, 2013 7:23:08 GMT -5
Stop the lies. It may make you feel better but in the long run it hurts us all. I want my job back. Jason Bercan, is that you?
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Post by Avantair employee on Jul 6, 2013 7:24:34 GMT -5
This is just not true. We just didn't have enough airplanes flying. We did our best with the planes that were available. The fact is many airplanes can't be flown because they need engine overhauls. We would ask when these planes would be ready and told the money wasn't there. There was no conspiracy the company didn't have the money. I am sorry for what happened to you on that flight. We wanted every flight to go perfect.
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Post by vnrpilots on Jul 6, 2013 7:50:15 GMT -5
This is just not true. We just didn't have enough airplanes flying. We did our best with the planes that were available. The fact is many airplanes can't be flown because they need engine overhauls. We would ask when these planes would be ready and told the money wasn't there. There was no conspiracy the company didn't have the money. I am sorry for what happened to you on that flight. We wanted every flight to go perfect. Of course they need overhauls. That is a scheduled event that a company needs to plan for. An overhaul doesn't sneak up and surprise an operator. It's planed for and money is set aside for it. If the 'money wasn't there' I'd ask why wasn't the money there? The money was paid to ensure an airworthy plane. Where did the money go? I don't really see this conversation going anywhere. Just pointing out the obvious...
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Post by Avantair employee on Jul 6, 2013 7:59:32 GMT -5
Maybe because people stopped paying. We were told the receivable was 10 million dollars. That's a lot of overhauls. We can all point fingers I won't get into all the delays created by pilots everyday but you should look in the mirror too.
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Post by Guest owner on Jul 6, 2013 8:21:50 GMT -5
Avantair employee,
So now it's the owners and pilots fault? It's obvious they didn't create a maintenance reserve they just used the funds anyway they needed to. Why were so many planes in need of overhaul at the same time, were they overflown or was the maintenance calendar mismanaged? A LOT of owners paid their yearly fees in advance (in return for "extra flight hours"), were their planes serviced? Um, no. By the way, we (owners) were told that the shortage of planes was due to the (two) fleet stand downs, not a backlog of overhauls, was that incorrect? I'm afraid you've been served a big dish of scapegoat.
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Post by onegoodyear on Jul 6, 2013 8:23:52 GMT -5
Maybe because people stopped paying. We were told the receivable was 10 million dollars. That's a lot of overhauls. We can all point fingers I won't get into all the delays created by pilots everyday but you should look in the mirror too. You are either creating the lies or just believing them. The accounts receivable per the last filing on March 30 2013 were $9.4 million. That number is below the average Accounts Receivable number for the last three years. As for the owners not paying, I prepaid my management fee and flight hours and you put me at the bottom of the list every time I tried to use the service.
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Post by Avantair employee on Jul 6, 2013 8:46:48 GMT -5
I was in a meeting where Haslett showed the monthly receipts declined from over 12 million to about 8. I know it's fun to speculate and ignite fires but the fact is we had a lot less money to pay for engine overhauls. Like I said I worked in operations and knew when airplanes would be available. A year ago it was very different. I am not blaming owners in the least. I understand why you didn't want to pay. I just think the speculation is wrong and unfortunate. We all tried really hard to mark it work but the money just wasn't there. I just hope we can get our jobs back and get all the airplanes back up. If we do we can put this all this behind us. There is nothing sinister here.
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