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Post by JetSet Group on Aug 8, 2013 13:48:18 GMT -5
We are the premier luxury private jet company in the US. We are the fastest growing with access to over 5000 aircraft worldwide. With access to the newest fleet in the air as well as Wyvern PASS Reports we are the safest in the industry. Many Avant owners have come our way since the ongoing issues. Our 25 Hour Jet Cards are the most cost effective way to go. We dont charge any repositioning, maitenance fees, fuel surcharges, overnight or landing fees. The prices of our cards are the most competitive in the industry. We have payment programs available as well. We have switched over quite a few AvantAir owners. We are here for you in your time of need. Please feel free to call or email for pricing. Sincerely, Steve Orfali 917-418-8933 sorfali@jetsetgrp.com www.jetsetgrp.com |
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Post by Caveat Emptor! on Aug 8, 2013 13:52:03 GMT -5
Not an air carrier. Beware. "JetSet Group Inc. does not manage or operate aircrafts on behalf of our clients." www.jetsetgrp.com/ |
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Post by JetSet Group on Aug 8, 2013 14:00:13 GMT -5
We are a charter broker. We work on behalf of our clients to source the best aircraft at the best pricing. In addition we purchase many hours at wholesale rates and pass them on to our clientele. Nothing to beware of we can do on-demand services as well, you're not locked into any contracts. Our 25 hour cards are refundable. We work for our clients not for the vendors. We can get an aircraft within 4 hours time.
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Post by Volunteer on Aug 8, 2013 15:02:17 GMT -5
You have no way of knowing the quality of maintenance or caliber of pilots that show up because they have no way of knowing. And good luck should there be a mishap. Go to their website - all the aircraft have the registration numbers air-brushed out. What is that about? You couldn't find out who owns the aircraft, who leases the aircraft, or who operates the aircraft if you wanted to.
Oh, they are all good because of FAA oversight. All 5,000 of them. Riiiight.
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Post by JetSet Group on Aug 8, 2013 15:10:32 GMT -5
so untrue! Its good they have forums like this to educate... We have third party auditors such as Wyvern and ARGUS, these are stricter than the FAA part 135. ARGUS makes sure of aircraft maintenance checks and safety records, we only use Gold or Platinum rated, all safety must be more than up to snuff or we don't contract that aircraft. Then we use Wyvern to get a PASS Report, which tells you the experience of the PIC and SIC, they cant pass a Wyvern check without sufficient flight hours and sufficient hours in type. On the pass report we give you the tail number and you can see the owner and operator of aircraft as well as their safety records. Needless to say we dont use anyone with anything other than a clean report as we give it to our clients, full disclosure! I said we have access to 5000 aircraft, that doesn't mean we use all of them, only the safest!
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Post by Volunteer on Aug 8, 2013 15:34:56 GMT -5
So why do you advertise 5,000 aircraft available? Does the list of aircraft you are willing to use grow and shrink in synch with demand and availability? Why not list the aircraft you regularly charter by registration number, who owns it, who leases it, and who maintains it? What are your insurance coverages? Are Wyvern or ARGUS going to be around when a mishap occurs? Do they have any skin in the game? How do YOU know the quality of operations and maintenance? You don't!
And why were the registration numbers of the aircraft airbrushed out? Maybe because they aren't even the aircraft available?
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Post by JetSet Group on Aug 8, 2013 15:42:11 GMT -5
Aircraft tail numbers were airbrushed out because there are so many GIV (for example) to choose from there is no way you can ask for a specific tail number. They float and some are located in specific home bases, should we put the tail that's located in Texas? Then the client in California wants that one only? makes no sense! I already explained that we disclose all the maintenance and aircraft history. Do you really think that when you buy into Avant or Net Jets you are ever on your specific tail number? They are all clones and whatever is positioned closest is what you get. I have many NetJet and Avant owners as clients, our pricing, aircraft and service speak for them self.
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Post by Gold on Aug 8, 2013 16:32:23 GMT -5
so untrue! Its good they have forums like this to educate... We have third party auditors such as Wyvern and ARGUS, these are stricter than the FAA part 135. ARGUS makes sure of aircraft maintenance checks and safety records, we only use Gold or Platinum rated, all safety must be more than up to snuff or we don't contract that aircraft. Then we use Wyvern to get a PASS Report, which tells you the experience of the PIC and SIC, they cant pass a Wyvern check without sufficient flight hours and sufficient hours in type. On the pass report we give you the tail number and you can see the owner and operator of aircraft as well as their safety records. Needless to say we dont use anyone with anything other than a clean report as we give it to our clients, full disclosure! I said we have access to 5000 aircraft, that doesn't mean we use all of them, only the safest! FYI Avantair was ARGUS Gold rated. So your telling me the same safety standard that applied to Avantair applies to to your jets? No thank you. |
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Post by Guest on Aug 8, 2013 16:36:44 GMT -5
Argus is a complete joke as far as I'm concerned. It is not a good indicator of the safety of an operation.
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Post by Gold on Aug 8, 2013 16:44:45 GMT -5
Argus is a complete joke as far as I'm concerned. It is not a good indicator of the safety of an operation. Agreed. Argus simply looks at the operation and not the physical condition of aircraft. Avantair had the ability to operate safely and could easily put on the appearance that they did operate to the gold standard for Argus. Unfortunately when it came time to operate like a safe operation they refused to spend the money or listen to the safety experts they hired. It didn't matter who they brought in the door, consultants, contractors or VP's, they were brought in for appearance only to pass the grade with the FAA, Argus and the owners group. Every recommendation fell on deaf ears and SS and KM did what they wanted regardless, they always knew best, always. |
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Post by Chris Hansen on Aug 8, 2013 21:43:13 GMT -5
Steve Orfali publicly exposes himself to unsuspecting strangers. Disgusting.
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Post by Standing by on Aug 8, 2013 22:57:36 GMT -5
This is embarrassing...
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Post by unionmember on Aug 8, 2013 22:58:55 GMT -5
Yo. Unionmember here. Remember me?
1) "We are the premier luxury private jet company in the US. We are the fastest growing with access to over 5000 aircraft worldwide. With access to the newest fleet in".
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Post by JetSet Group on Aug 9, 2013 8:46:28 GMT -5
WOW! Who knew offering a simple charter service would cause so much buzz? I guess some of you hate charter and love fractional... Well that's ok, if you ever need a charter and want to pay only for what you use and no cash outlay or depreciating asset, then come see us.
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Post by Guest on Aug 9, 2013 8:59:06 GMT -5
WOW! Who knew offering a simple charter service would cause so much buzz? I guess some of you hate charter and love fractional... Well that's ok, if you ever need a charter and want to pay only for what you use and no cash outlay or depreciating asset, then come see us. Don't beat yourself up. I think you need to understand the extent of the burn that has happened. Many of the people on this board already own an aircraft, a Piaggio, that they can not access or is not currently in airworthy condition and many of them are just now finding out about it. This board has served as the only information they receive about their aircraft and serious investment. Recently there has been a good deal of companies advertising their services and at times it is comparable to an "ambulance chaser". If your service is truly as good as you say then it will speak for itself and those in need will find you. |
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